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I love everything you stand for. this is exactly what this country needs.
From what I just read, this "cause" is based on just being different? How many HHR live in lower-income communities. How many HHR actually care about the education and upliftment of underprivileged blacks who have to deal with systemic prejudices on a daily basis? Please call yourselves Black Republicans, as the essence of Hip Hop contradicts almost everything you stand for. From education to health insurance to the war in Iraq, you obviously do not have the interest of underprivileged minorities at heart. But hey, whatever makes you feel good about your "cause", right?
BTW, I am a Christian who is not a democrat, but I am definitely not a republican either, simply based on the fact that beyond “morality”, republicans definitely do not acknowledge or work towards making America more equal and giving the same opportunity to the underprivileged. Rich get richer…
This is the most uninformative, vague and ignorant nonsense I've read in a while.
This site is really cool. I really like to read the empowerment stories and to know that their is a voice out there that stands for black republicans! The history of black republicans is deep and well documented. Keep up the work!! I really love the site, well done.
I am thrilled to see this new "take the reigns" attitude. I feel that for far to long, Democrats have been exploiting race and minority groups just to gain votes, only to then enact social programs that suppress those people. True conservatism and the concepts that define it, such as limited government, civil liberties, personal responsibility, free markets, limited taxes, charity, and responsible spending, I feel are all concepts that, in the long term, can have a lasting effect on the standards and, ultimately, the success of our black and minor communities; a long term solution that feeds character, rather than a short term solution like free money from the government. I am glad to see you are no longer willing to be bought off by the Democratic party, who feel they have a monopoly on diversity, the poor, minorities, and the black community. Now, if only we can get the Republicans to embrace true conservative values again.
poor folk have been voting democrat for 100 years... what's that got us so far? HHR is a real perspective on how to control our own future.
What has that gotten you so far? Do you think that nothing has changed in the last 100 years? Please, learn some history.
...And here's a history lesson for the HHR community. First two are dems, last two repubs.
FDR - Social security, pensions, affordable housing, decent wages, strong unions, the list goes on
JFK/LBJ - medicare, medicaid, assistance to needy families/persons
Reagan - kills unions, falsely assumes if the rich get richer they'll give to the poor, causes a recession
Bush - more tax cuts and breaks for the wealthy, price of gas skyrockets, nerly kills medicare and social security, denies funding to improve lagging schools
And the republicans have helped you how?
...And here's a history lesson for you "Anonymous" said...
During the Kennedy administration, the Republican minority in Congress introduced many bills to protect the constitutional rights of blacks, including a comprehensive new civil rights bill. In February 1963, to head off a return by most blacks to the party of Lincoln, Kennedy abruptly decided to submit to Congress a new civil rights bill. Hastily drafted in a single all-nighter, the Kennedy bill fell well short of what our Party had introduced into Congress the month before. Over the next several months, Democrat racists in Congress geared up for a protracted filibuster against the civil rights bill. The bill was before a committee in the House of Representatives when John Kennedy was murdered in November 1963.
Invoking his slain predecessor, Lyndon Johnson made passage of the bill his top priority, and in his first speech to Congress he urged Representatives and Senators to do "more for civil rights than the last hundred sessions combined". Though he shared Johnson's convictions on safeguarding the constitutional rights of blacks, if Nixon had been in the White House then instead, Democrats in favor of segregation and those unwilling to see a Republican achieve the victory would have blocked his legislative initiative in Congress.
The 1964 Civil Rights Act was an update of Republican Senator Charles Sumner's 1875 Civil Rights Act. In striking down that law in 1883, the Supreme Court had ruled that the 14th amendment was not sufficient constitutional authorization, so the 1964 version had to be written in such a way as to rely instead on the interstate commerce clause for its constitutional underpinning.
Mindful of how Democrat opposition had forced the Republicans to weaken their 1957 and 1960 Civil Rights Acts, President Johnson warned Democrats in Congress that this time it was all or nothing. To ensure support from Republicans, he had to promise them that he would not accept any weakening of the bill and also that he would publicly credit our Party for its role in securing congressional approval. Johnson played no direct role in the legislative fight, so that it would not be perceived as a partisan struggle. There was no doubt that the House of Representatives would pass the bill.
In the Senate, Minority Leader Everett Dirksen had little trouble rounding up the votes of most Republicans, and former presidential candidate Richard Nixon also lobbied hard for the bill. Senate Majority Leader Michael Mansfield and Senator Hubert Humphrey led the Democrat drive for passage, while the chief opponents were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, of later Watergate fame, Albert Gore Sr., and Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd, a former Klansman whom Democrats still call "the conscience of the Senate", filibustered against the civil rights bill for fourteen straight hours before the final vote. The House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 126, a vote in which 79% of Republicans and 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats and only 6 Republicans voting no. President Johnson signed the new Civil Rights Act into law on July 2, 1964.
Overall, there was little overt resistance to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The struggle was not yet over, however, as most southern state governments remained under the control of segregationist Democrats. It was a Republican federal judge who desegregated many public facilities in the South. Appointed by President Eisenhower in 1955, Frank Johnson had overturned Montgomery, Alabama's infamous "blacks in the back of the bus" law in his very first decision. During the 1960s, Judge Johnson continued to advance civil rights despite opposition from George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and other Democrat Governors.
*In 1855, Fenton co-founded the New York Republican Party and chaired its first state convention he did this after leaving the Party of Slavery.
*On this day in 1862, President Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) authorized his Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton, to "arm, uniform and receive into the service of the United States such number of volunteers of African descent as you may deem expedient... The persons so received into service, and their officers, to be entitled to, and to receive, the same pay and rations as are allowed, by law, to volunteers in the service."
During the Civil War, 210,000 African-Americans, three-quarters from the South, served in the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy.
Wanna debate my list?
Abraham Lincoln emancipated the slaves
1866: first civil rights act passed by Radical Republicans over a Presidential veto, blacks granted citizenship, segregation was forbidden
1868 Republicans passed the 14th amendment passed granting equal protection
1871 Republicans passed voting rights
Theodore Roosevelt was the first President to invite an African-American to dinner in the White House.
1920s, the Democratic platforms didn't even call for anti-lynching legislation as the Republican platforms did.
1957 civil rights act pushed by Ike, passed . Sen Kennedy voted against it, A Democrat Senator filibustered it for 24 hrs, Senator Johnson watered it down so that it lacked enforcement
Eisenhower sent Federal troops to Little Rock to integrate Central High
1960 another civil rights act, again Dems kept enforcement measures out of it
1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Over eighty percent of Republicans voted for both.
Nixon created the EEOC and expanded civil rights law.
Ronald Reagan signed the bill making MLK day a public holiday
Today the three highest ranking black government officials are all Republicans (Powell, Rice and Thomas)
The Man From Illinois
In the Senate, Hubert Humphrey was the point man for the Civil Rights Act. That is not unusual considering the Democrats held both houses of Congress and the presidency.
Sen. Thomas Kuchel of California led the Republican pro-civil rights forces. But it became clear who among the Republicans was going to get the job done; that man was conservative Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen.
He was the master key to victory for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Without him and the Republican vote, theAct would have been dead in the water for years to come. LBJ and Humphrey knew that without Dirksen the Civil Rights Act was going nowhere.
Dirksen became a tireless supporter, suffering bouts of ill health because of his efforts in behalf of crafting and passing the Civil Rights Act. Nonetheless, Sen. Dirksen suffered the same fate as many Republicans and conservatives do today.
Even though Dirksen had an exemplary voting record in support of bills furthering the cause of African-Americans, activist groups in Illinois did not support Dirksen for re-election to the Senate in 1962.
Believing that Dirksen could be forced into voting for the Civil Rights Act, they demonstrated and picketed and there were threats by CORE to continue demonstrations and violence against Dirksen's offices in Illinois. James Farmer of CORE stated that "people will march en masse to the post offices there to file handwritten letters" in protest.
Dirksen blew it off in a statement typical of him: "When the day comes that picketing, distress, duress, and coercion can push me from the rock of conviction, that is the day that I shall gather up my togs and walk out of here and say that my usefulness in the Senate has come to an end."
Dirksen began the tactical arrangements for passage of the bill. He organized Republican support by choosing floor captains for each of the bill's seven sections.
The Republican "swing" votes were from rural states without racial problems and so were uncommitted. The floor captains and Dirksen himself created an imperative for these rural Republicans to vote in favor of cloture on filibuster and then for the Act itself.
As they worked through objections to the bill, Dirksen explained his goal as "first, to get a bill; second, to get an acceptable bill; third, to get a workable bill; and, finally, to get an equitable bill."
In any event, there were still 52 days of filibuster and five negotiation sessions. Senators Dirksen and Humphrey, and Attorney General Robert Kennedy agreed to propose a "clean bill" as a substitute for H. R. 7152. Senators Dirksen, Mansfield, Humphrey and Kuchel would cosponsor the substitute.
This agreement did not mean the end of the filibuster, but it did provide Dirksen with a compromise measure, which was crucial to obtain the support of the "swing" Republicans.
On June 17, the Senate voted by a 76 to 18 margin to adopt the bipartisan substitute worked out by Dirksen in his office in May and to give the bill its third reading. Two days later, the Senate passed the bill by a 73 to 27 roll call vote. Six Republicans and 21 Democrats held firm and voted against passage.
In all, the 1964 civil rights debate had lasted a total of 83 days, slightly over 730 hours, and had taken up almost 3,000 pages in the Congressional Record.
On May 19, Dirksen called a press conference told the gathering about the moral need for a civil rights bill. On June 10, 1964, with all 100 senators present, Dirksen rose from his seat to address the Senate. By this time he was very ill from the killing work he had put in on getting the bill passed. In a voice reflecting his fatigue, he still spoke from the heart:
"There are many reasons why cloture should be invoked and a good civil rights measure enacted. It is said that on the night he died, Victor Hugo wrote in his diary substantially this sentiment, 'Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come.' The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing of government, in education, and in employment. It must not be stayed or denied."
After the civil rights bill was passed, Dirksen was asked why he had done it. What could possibly be in it for him given the fact that the African-Americans in his own state had not voted for him? Why should he champion a bill that would be in their interest? Why should he offer himself as a crusader in this cause?
Dirksen's reply speaks well for the man, for Republicans and for conservatives like him: "I am involved in mankind, and whatever the skin, we are all included in mankind."
The bill was signed into law by President Johnson on July 2, 1964.
Taking Credit
There is a line from a movie which I have remembered since I first heard it. In the movie, a young doctor failed to get credit or recognition for a heroic act. A friend asked him if that bothered him. The young man's reply was "There will never be any credit for me, there will just be the next thing to do."
Credit may be given to Sen. Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota for being the loudest voice in support for legislation in the late '50s and early '60s. Credit may be given to LBJ for pushing legislation.
owever, without the leadership and help of Republicans, who had voted for bills to help minorities for decades before 1964, any Democratic Party legislative effort would have been watered down or failed because of obstinate Democrats – i.e., the Dixiecrats.
Neither political party, however, has the right to claim it was responsible for making civil rights for African-Americans happen. Changing times and the efforts of blacks themselves, plus the thousands of electronic pictures blazing across the screens on national television, finally brought it home to white America that injustices were being done to their brethren who happened to be black.
The fact that Democrats are quick to take credit for the Civil Rights Act and for the civil rights movement itself is both phony and a self-absorbed vanity.
The Democrats and the press can continue to make a big deal of Lott's statement spoken to honor Strom Thurmond on his 100th birthday. Like George Wallace and others, Thurmond and Lott grew as men. They grew out of their times and their situation. They apologized for their former beliefs and they acted on that change of heart and have done so time and time again.
Democrats do themselves no good by taking credit for the civil rights movement or for legislation that came out of it. If they do that, they also must take the blame for the failures of the policies of dependence which they created and which choked the life out of the African-American culture and family life.
If African-Americans ever do vote for Republicans or conservatives, I hope they do so because they finally realize that though conservatives don't have all the answers, they do have enough faith in people to allow them the freedom to find the answers for themselves.
I'm a black man, and I consider myself a moderate, although I tend to vote democrat in most elections. But I've always thought that one of the things holding the black community back is its blind devotion to the democratic party. Until we show the willingness to cross party lines neither party will take us seriously. Democrats take us for granted (unless they need us), and Republicans tend to ignore us.
I realize, of course, the irony of my saying that I vote democrat but wish more african-americans voted republican. But the truth is, until we start thinking--and voting--for ourselves, and not as one thoughtless monolithic mass, we won't truly move our community forward.
I wish you all the best of luck in ending the stigma and stereotypes. God bless, and perhaps under the right circumstances, one day we'll be voting together.
Awsome history lesson above. We should all read and learn it. This is the only country in the worl that a man can get what he deserves by working for it! The politics of personal responsibility! Take responsibility for you and your family young men.
The democrats started the Klan, Jim Crow lawas and a lot more things if only people cared and looked more into things. The problem is there are far to many "double standards" in the democratic party. RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!!!!! The DEM party is insistent on keeping people down ONLY to keep them poor to hand them checks, and a pat on the back. WHAT is so uplifiting? THAT to me is more racist than anything, think slave wages folks. Am I alone here? Oh, btw I am white and have been labeled as racist by WHITE DEMOCRATS for not backing Obama.. He can keep the change as far as I am concerned. I doubt highly that any of his supporters would back him if he were a Republican, and THAT is the only thing we have in common. :)
Please let me know if I am in the wrong for the previous comment... I do not like to offend BUT I am a staunch supporter of the freedom of speech for ALL. NOT just some, BUT all people.
Charles, start with yourself in November towards REAL unity, VOTE MCCAIN!!! What is the wost that could happen? Self Esteem skyrockets??
^ How bout tax cuts for the rich and many more years wasted in Iraq?
the history lesson above was very informative albeit a little long. that being said, politicians and politics are not static things. they morph, change. political parties shift over the years and sometimes disappear altogether like the Whigs... the original ones not the newly branded ones.
nonetheless, many old school Dixiecrats later became Republicans and continued their divisive ways. (Strom Thurmond or, heaven forbid, David Duke, anyone?) i've always been baffled and saddened by how some "modern" GOP members would unabashedly play the race card. i remember all too well the Willie Horton, Angry White Male and other race tinged ads of the 80's and 90's. many times, in their rush to get attention or energize white voters, GOP ads would imply that young Black Males were potentially dangerous or criminals or that White Males couldn't get a job because of... young Black Males. i was in my 20's and 30's back then and i can tell you the mistrust and negative feelings were palpable. being a young Black male during these times could be at times... uncomfortable, to say the least.
now we enter the 21st Century and we see it again in anti-Obama ads at the beginning of this campaign cycle (the one with the girl saying "Call me...") or the smear tactics that called into question his heritage or religious background because of his name.
for most of the time that i've been of voting age i have tried to listen to both sides of the issues and consider what both parties had to say. up until the last presidential election i registered as an Independent but i find that increasingly difficult when Republicans, time and again use race and religion or scare tactics in an attempt to garner votes or to energize their base. that's not to say that i'd never vote Republican. as i mentioned before, politics change. but as things stand right now, with the recent political history ringing in my ears, i can't do it.
as for who these parties represent... watch the rallies, watch the conventions. watch the crowds, the people who voluntarily come to see the candidates or their supporters. look at the faces. if we are a nation of immigrants from all over the world then the people in the crowds should look as if they're from all over the world and not mostly one ethnic group with a couple of people of color thrown in.
that is UNITY.
btw, guys your Hip-Hop Republican "mission statement" or description is indeed vague. i actually admire you a bit for standing firm on what you believe but if you really want to change minds or make people think you've got to have a much clearer message.
Why not tax cuts for the rich? If they are not using the system, tthey should not have to pay as much into it. I get an electric bill for 100.00 should I have to pay 200.00 just because my neighbor did not do the responsible thing and plan ahead? NO.
Wasted years in Iraq? I hope you never say that to any of the troops, or anyone whose family member has died there. That would indicate to them that their loved one died in vain. Granted, I am not a supporter of this war, on any war but sadly, war is at times necessary. If it were not for a war slavery would never have ended. BEAR IN MIND, IT WAS DEMS WHO WANTED THAT TO CONTINUE. Do your research and learn more than any school ever gave you. I am a devout Ron Paul Republican and not a big believer in what this war meant but it needed to happen. Granted what all we were given on the news for the whys and what not for what was going on were total BS. BUT, sometimes the govt. CANNOT tell us everything. If they did, the enemy would know what we were up to in battle. THAT would be totally counter-productive. Think football, best offense is a strong defense. You know what I mean. Say GW came on the news and said "We are doing this because (fill in the blank) and we are going to attack like (fill in the blank). They could have instantly set up their guard and we lost. BAD BAD BAD idea. :) The only things I cannot back McCain on are the war, the gay marriage issue (I am a supporter of this, but that is not to be explained in this post) and his amnesty for illegal immigrants. Tax money is paying for non-citizens and that is pathetic.
Cya.... thanks for commenting back, I appreciate it
Sorry ANON, I did not see your second post until after I did my first one..... I understand the principle in "unity" and find it to be very humbling and a beautiful concept. Will it ever happen? NO. Do I want it to? NO. Yes, we are all people, no matter race, sex, sexual orientation.... BUT by no means are we all equal. What I mean by that is anyone who preaches equality needs to take a good look in the mirror and ask if they are or want to be "equal" and "unified" with the murders, rapists, drug dealers, pedophiles... and what not in prison. I sure as hell do not. I AM better than them and I do not want to be on the same field as them....
I could care less his religion, race or name. I care that we do not become a nation of socialists. The USSR was never a positive thing to me. I do not want to have to wait in line for bread, gas or anything for my rations. I believe in the idea that "A government large enough to give you all that you need is large enough to take all that you have." I lost ALL respect for the DEM party with Tipper Gore and her need to censor the cd's I bought. I am sorry, it is not the dem. party's job to take care of me and be my babysitter. I moved out of my parents house a long time ago and need not a new mommy and daddy. I damn sure do not want a daddy that wants to take my right to bear arms and think for myself away..... Quelling our speech and then removing the 2nd ammend. is nothing more than the government controlling our lives. Sorry, I am not a sheep and do not want a dog (anyone in the government) playing herder. I think for myself and if more people did, it would be a far better world. Why? Because then and only then would people be able to learn accountability for their actions.
To the Anonymous who typed a boiok long comment. Don't forget that the Republicans claim did so much good were Liberals at that time, and the Dems were conservatives. You conveniently leave that part out. Nice try.
**"Sorry ANON, I did not see your second post until after I did my first one..... "
that's okay. it's okay because my ANON isn't the same ANON you first responded to.
**"I understand the principle in "unity" and find it to be very humbling and a beautiful concept. Will it ever happen? NO."
why not? it's happening already. my family has people in it from several groups. i am in a biracial marriage. i have several friends that are too. we all get together, biracial and "traditional", make off color jokes at one another and laugh about it then watch our children play. it's all cool. we think this "unity thing" is pretty good.
**"Do I want it to? NO."
again i ask, why? and again i say... too late.
**"Yes, we are all people, no matter race, sex, sexual orientation.... BUT by no means are we all equal."
hmm. don't recall mentioning anything about 'equal' but....
**"What I mean by that is anyone who preaches equality needs to take a good look in the mirror and ask if they are or want to be "equal" and "unified" with the murders, rapists, drug dealers, pedophiles... and what not in prison. I sure as hell do not. I AM better than them and I do not want to be on the same field as them...."
woah. that's a leap. but allow me to offer this: the concept of equality is important in American history and government.
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created EQUAL, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."
most people who "preach" equality probably use this quote as a template for the idea they're trying to convey. you seem like a fellow of fair intelligence so i needn't tell you which document that quote came from. i can't say i know exactly what Jefferson was thinking when he wrote that but i do know the key word here is CREATED. we are created equal and therefore should be given equal rights and the law should be applied equally. if you should break the law or be sent to prison these rights are forfeit. that is to say, once you're in prison your freedoms are severely curtailed. this is what i believe American equality is about. besides, Thomas Jefferson wrote it... so it can't be all bad.
i don't think Jefferson meant that we're equal to criminals or offenders. but "equality" and "unity" are two different things. take the Hip Hop Republicans for example. they've brought their voice and ideas together with other Republican organizations to have a UNITED party to address issues they believe central to American ideals and values.
your next paragraph i won't attempt to discuss in whole because, well with all due respect, i have trouble seeing a coherent train of thought... sorry.
i will say this:
Tipper Gore never stopped anyone from buying any CD they wanted and she didn't censor any either. she DID lobby for labels to indicate the content on the CD's. i'm not defending her here, i don't really care about her one way or the other. that's just what happened. you can buy any CD you want, it'll just have a warning label to advise the meek that they might be about to hear something that may make them blush. or tick 'em off.
i agree, it is NOT the job of our Government to take care of you. nor is it the Governments job to interfere in a persons right to choose how they wish to live their lives. i also agree that people should think for themselves and not have the Government legislate religion or morality. your decisions, your choices, your beliefs, your morals should be between you and the deity of your choice. as long as you don't adversely affect me, my family or my property or it's value it's none of my business.
Thank you all for the great comments, history lessons, and great info! I love the "take the reigns" attitude of this page as well. I'm so sick and tired of the "poor me" attitude of people (poor, minorities, etc.) who buy right into the Dems welfare-dependent policies. Anyone can succeed in America, and personal responsability is the first step.
Keep up the great work!!!
First and foremost I respect this organization and what it is trying to accomplish, but my grandmother always told me that if "You Don't stand for something you will fall for anything". The Republican party does not and will not represent the minority. I'm not talking about the Americans who miss out on oppurtunites, but those who are never given a chance, and are not offered the resources to do better. Has this organization taken its ideologies to the streets and told our single Black mother's how this free market, and less governmental influence in private buisness will benefit them. Let's be realistic. I am a registered 21 year old African American female Democrat ( A junior at a major HBCU), not because of the status quo of how our people have always voted but because, its in my heart. I feel like its the For Us, By Us party. No disrespect, but I am just keeping it real for those who don't have access to a computer to read this. And another thing, Im sure the Republicans have done a few things to benefit African-Americans, but they have to do just enough to keep us satisified and quiet, they represent the wealthy and most fortunate.
In response to normstar, if you have a job you pay into that welfare-dependent policy. Whether you recieve the benefits or not. I apologize that you did not know that in order to receive many of the benefits you have to be either in school or working. And if you are not working you have to actually take a course, that will prepare you in finding a job and keeping it. And as a single mother who has had to receive these poor services, I want you to research the guidelines and requirements to be on welfare, because I have worked since the day the government told I was of age to be employeed. And I am eagerly anticipating the completion of my undergraduate degree. It is most definitely not a social service, it is the Republican means to keep the Black community in the projects. Let's not down the people who are on the system and cannot seem to find a way out. And most definitely do not speak on something that one has not had to live or go through. Let us be sagacious enough to go beyond the negative stereotypes that we may hear about people on welfare. And in what America do you live where anyone can succeed? America has a caste system just like India. You are born into poverty, and you must fight your way out. Now I have most definitely fought my way out, but like Hughes said,..."Life for me aint been no crystal stair." The American dream is very hard to come by, when your mother nor father can help you with your homework, not because they don't want to, only because they can't. America is not all it's made out to be whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. It is really sad to know that some people are actually supporting the deconstruction of our community.
Shottanic I do not know you but I agree completely!!!!
All that I can say in COON COON COON!
Let me first start by saying that though I do appreciate the slither of diversity derived from this site and the whole hhr movement in general this question should be posed as with all groups are you just trying to be "different" are is this a cause that you actually believe in (as the question can be posed for black dems) furthermore RESPONSIBILITY IN LIFE IS A CHOICE not party affiliated whether it be education wise or financially it is also about opportunity and about employing the same amount of energy in our community as a whole and not just trying to get votes for either side of the aisle. We need to start respecting each other and be more inclusive instead of distancing ourselves from problems and becoming a bigger part of the problem. Stop letting bs define us as a community.
Anonymous said...
"All that I can say in COON COON COON!"
there you have it. and not written very well, i might add. yeah, i know... it's flamebait but it is indicative of one of the problems our country faces and i'm not sure the Republican Party as a whole, as it exists today, is willing to deal with it directly.
BTW, prettyfatgirl... yeah, just what you said.
I do applaud your courage (because it is different); HOWEVER I do not believe many black people follow the Democratic Party like drones. There are serious points of contention that the Republican Party does not provide for Black Americans. While your personal situation may dictate an alignment with the Republican Party, courage is really about standing for something bigger than self.
Abortion - Republicans say pro-life; however, the Republican Party loathes social programs ('handouts' as your party terms it) designed to provide government support for unwanted children. Programs to care for unwanted children and prevent teenage pregnancy are democratic initiatives that create a system to support those children. Yes welfare comes in the form of Foster care programs, teen prevention programs, after-school programs, neighborhood development programs….social programs designed to help our less fortunate to have an opportunity.
Leadership - I am in the military and have been for 16 years. Republicans have always been about a strong defense. However, when the only tool in your tool box is a hammer, then you start to fix every problem with a hammer. I fully support use of military force when necessary, but other elements of national power (diplomatic, economic, and intelligence) should also be used. I am still not convinced Iraq posed a threat and international sanctions were not working. With operations Northern and Southern Watch in place, Saddam's forces never could advance south of the 38th parallel. I digress, but clearly democrats have historically been quicker to use diplomacy and international support over military power. There is usually more than one way to solve a problem. Funny that when the current administration was forced to take military off the table due to commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan, diplomacy worked very well in North Korea, Iran, China (Jesse Jackson retrieving those pilots in 2001), and Russia.
Schools - You say, "parents of urban children must have the opportunity to take the tax dollars assigned to them via the current public school system and redistribute the funds to schools that will truly prepare their children for 21st Century jobs"...is this the same as "vouchers for private school" the George H.W. Bush promoted? Simple democratic question..."Why not fix the problem (public schools) vice prepare a select few in public schools? Competition is great, but private school vouchers do not promote competition, yet relegate the public school system as substandard. America must be strategic and raise the education level of all of our children vice a select few.
Taking advantage of current tax climate - I worked on Capitol Hill and both parties recognize the importance of growing business to create jobs. How exactly do you delineate a black republican versus black democrat reinvesting in the community. An approach is to secure CBDGs (Community Block Development Grants) or initiate other development programs if you are truly about improving the community over yourself.
Diversity - I absolutely agree with you that we (black Americans) should be able to have more than one vehicle, but don't get into a vehicle that isn't right. If the Republican platform doesn't fit, then why are you riding it? Maybe it does and I welcome your knowledge; however, you really are capable of better. Why not promote a third party candidate if their platform works for you? Do not kid yourself that there are not disadvantages to being a minority in America. We've come a long way, but terms like "glass ceilings" and "quotas" indicate we still have some ways to go.
Hip Hop Republicans - How many hip hop artists really support your use of that term? Yes, it really does seem like an oxymoron.
As opposed to quitting on the Democratic Party, I encourage you to use your energy and take a stand. I do not possess the passion in politics to pursue it as a career; however you clearly do and you can make a change. Ask yourself really, why is the general race so close...not sure you can site Obama's experience, this man has clearly taken strides in his short time to become only the 5th black American elected to the US Senate (no small achievement). Executive experience - he is running a Presidential campaign, I am certain he could be mayor of Wasilla, Detroit, New York, etc and certainly a state Governor (e.g. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana only served one term in the House, Sarah Palin only served as mayor of Wasilla). It is not the path he chose and there is no empirical evidence prior executive experience is a requirement (e.g. Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush).
I look forward to better understanding your position as I do look forward to learning more. About me – I am mid-30s, Army Lieutenant Colonel, doctoral candidate, business owner, and success real estate investor. I plan to retire from the military in 4 years and pursue real estate full time. My current assignment is in Congressional relations work with House and Senate Staff and I recently served as a Fellow on the staff of a Senate Appropriator. I am very familiar with the circles with which you run; however, the roots are not about a promise of returning back, but about a practice of staying connected.
I want to close by saying that I do respect your position to take a stand, but I am ignorant on the reasons for which you stand. I welcome your enlightenment.
I'LL DEBATE YOUR LIST....
Though it seems like a history lesson, it is a simple cut and paste. See http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/000599.html
Can you even verify the source. Better yet, is it a relavant source and not some one sided account. If you promote yourself to stand for this party and want to espouse wanna-be facts, do the research and not be a "Republican Party" token drone.
You just embarrassed yourself at the RNC. Way to keep your cool when proven absolutely wrong. www.theyoungturks.com
I do not know this but the Abraham Lincoln Republicans you talk about are not the same republicans today. The South used to be known as solid Democratic. The Democrats of the south are the Republicans now. The Abraham republicans are the Democrats of today. Read history. We must help are poor brothers, not privatizes social security.
Earl R., I like your response.
I was watching CNN this morning and saw an interview with a member of Hip Hop Republicans and what he said really troubled me. The member said that “blacks feel obligated to vote for Barack Obama”, suggesting that it’s the only reason why Mr. Obama has the majority of the black vote. This is a typical response from the terrified republicans, but I was blown away when I heard it coming from an African American. This kind of statement belittles Mr. Obama’s achievements and insults the intelligence of the many African Americans that will vote for him.
I believe the majority of African Americans will vote for Mr. Obama because they see a candidate that understands their issues and has the ability to make a real difference. I hear it over and over again from the republicans; “the American people want less government intervention, not more”. That’s what America had for the last eight years and look what happened. The republicans successfully deregulated the energy and financial industries, which lead to the Enron meltdown and current mortgage crisis. Let’s not forget how the government failed the victims of Katrina and called them “refugees” as they traveled to neighboring states seeking shelter. How can you be a refugee in your own country?
I’m from Canada and find it amusing every time the republicans make universal healthcare sound like the worse thing on Earth. I may pay more in income tax, but when I or anyone in my family needs medical attention it does not cost anything to get it. It’s not a financial catastrophe when someone here is diagnosed with cancer or any other sickness. In addition, when a woman gives birth to a baby in Canada, they are allowed to take up to one year of paid leave from work to nurture that baby and create a strong parental bond. There is even an option of splitting the maternity leave between a mother and her spouse. Animals in the wild spend more time with their newborns than some American mothers. Universal healthcare is a big reason why a lot of American voters are behind Barack Obama. You can continue to preach that free market garbage, but we all know who benefits the most from that approach.
On the issue of abortion, the republicans just had eight years in office and never once tried to reverse Roe vs. Wade. How does this talking point still work on evangelical Christians?
I can go on and on… I’m watching Romney and Giuliani make fun of Barack Obama for being a community organizer, for trying to help our people instead of turning his back on them. You Hip Hop Republicans are truly brainwashed. I feel sorry for you; it reminds me of when the Vietcong used to question African American soldiers as to why they are fighting for a country that hates them.
Lastly, I noticed on one of the hiphoprebublican.com pages, the founder (Richard) has a picture of Bob Marley as his profile picture. Do you honestly think Bob Marley would be down with the Hip Hop Republicans? The republicans represent the Babylon system he detested. Listen to Crazy Baldhead, this verse is especially fitting:
“Build your penitentiary; we build your schools,
Brainwash education to make us the fools.
Hate is your reward for our love,
Telling us of your God above.
We gonna chase those crazy -
Chase those crazy bunkheads -
Chase those crazy baldheads out of the yown!”
Andrew
Why not just call yourselves "Young Black Republicans" because its obvious, based on your own assertion that you do not know what "Hip Hop" is. I'm not a Republican. I'm a Democrat and I live in a Home, with my wife and 2 children. I have a Ph.D in religion... and I AM HIP HOP. So all your family values; I live it. All your Stop Looking for Hand Outs; I don't. To come from Nothing and Rise to the Top is the essential message of Hip Hop since its infancy back in the 1970's. If you do not know that then I suggest you take the NOUN of Hip Hop out of your name.
i've heard barack obama is a socialist, and based on what i've heard from him i'm starting to believe he is following karl marx.
thoughts????
I would like to take time to point out the inability of republicans who speak of advancement yet make no advancements in that direction. Though I have nothing against people to be opinionated, I do however, dislike the ignorance which this site stands for. Though you may believe you are not an "uncle tom" and a "sell out" you are proving yourself to be just that through your actions and adoption of terms which the media and the "nameless" have labeled you.
I am very biased on my party and the party I am biased towards is the one that speaks truth, equality, and justice. Though far-fetched in any form of life, this is made most possible by the democrats and never has been by any republican to date.
Your nature of which you spoke in your interview with young turks and no... I am not a turk supporter. Your suggestive manner, inability to properly assess a situation and make an educated response to a rather simple question, leads me to believe that you are all money driven and concerned with self as opposed to the overall advancement of the country.
Take the time to analyze self and realize that the reason for demise in all communities is the inability for people to analyze themselves and change accordingly. Hip Hop Republican is the very embodiment of such hypocrisy and ignorance.
As far as the defense of Republicans passing the Civil Rights act of 1964 goes...People are quick to point out how the Democrats blocked the progression of Civil Rights and on the surface that is true, but let's look at what Democrats did that- they were SOUTHERN democrats that depended upon white voters to keep them in office. By supporting a Civil Rights Act they would be committing political suicide (Not that they weren't against the legislation, they were) but most of those Southern Democrats became Republicans shortly after the Civil Rights Act. I am a registered Republican, but I really hate when people try and paint such a rosy picture for Republicans and dismall one for the Democrats. It basically goes like this- Northern Politicians supported the legislation and Southern didn't.
Even with all of this so called history lessons, why is it the Dr. King was a supporter and/or friend of the Kennedy's. Now I wouldn't speak to the true hearth the Kennedy's I don't know them. They could have hated blacks for all I know. But Dr. King knew them and considerd them close friends, so who can sit there and say that the Republicans were more concered about the black movement. If the Republicans cared so much more than the Democrats, then common sense would tell you that Dr. King would have had a closer relationship to the Republicans. Basic common sense usually trumps historic rhetoric. You cannot compare the Republican party of Lincoln to the party that is present today. History shows that the party morphed sometime near the early 1900's. It is widely believed that Teddy Roosevelt was an avid racist. He hated the fact that the heavyweight champion of the world was a black man; and just because he invited a black person to dinner at the white house was probably because he thought that he/she was a hell of a cook! Besides if history is so important to you black republicans, then why would you support the party of another white president, when something so special as the first potential Black Presidnet which is a vision that few blacks (especially those who lived through the era of the Civil Rights movement)could have ever imagined. Even if I was a black republican, I could never look my children in their eyes and say that I was on the side that was against Obama. Why would I put the Republican party, or any party for that matter, over the struggle of my ancestors, and a dream that could become reality. If you truly don't like, and/or are sick of the Democratic Party, then be an independent and think for yourselves instead of being a vessel for those who don't care if we live or die. If your not sure, black republicans, then talk to more of our brother and sisters from New Orleans. Explain to them how much the Republican party cares for the concerns of blacks. Though they might not want to hear it.
I'm a white guy, Republican, I think this is awesome. Possibly the bravest segment of the Republican party is rooted in the black community, who face a lot of pressure and are really tested in their beliefs. The liberal Democrats along with the media have done a good job of turning the black community against the Republican party with lies and false stereotypes. Ironic considering the Republican party was founded to give slavery opponents a means of mounting an effective battle against slavery.
I admire any black Republican, I've seen the kind of ignorance and slander they have to put up with.
I listened to the rant on U TUBE. You actually believe what you are saying is right. bush & his cronies sat and watched on the sidelines. Black people should help their selves you said, they should not build on a flood plain, etc. Your ignorance and that of your party shines through.
Hey Thomas Ellison:
I'm glad you think us blacks are so stupid that "The liberal Democrats along with the media have done a good job of turning the black community against the Republican party with lies and false stereotypes" Maybe it was the racism of Trickle Down economics or Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond who left the Dems to come to the party of Lincoln because it embraced their racist views. The republican party has made no attempts to bring minorities to the table except for their token steppin fetchits .Remember what Republican senate leader Trent Lott said about how the country would have been great if Thurmond had won the presidency. That was just six years ago. How any self respecting Black man could attend the GOP convention is beyond me. If you don't want to be a democrat ok, but to become a republican, is just sick.
Neither Republicans nor Democrats are going to help people of color or any other marginalized groups. This system is a failure: schools, hospitals, judicial system and all other institutions continue to exploit. If we truly want freedom, we will create our own paths, instead of choosing A or B every election. Autonomy and collectivity are what will save us, not this stupid ideal that if you pull yourself up by your boostraps you will be justly rewared for your work. There is no real correlation between the blood, sweat and tears people of color shed and their status. And for the record, I'm voting for Obama simply because we need to continue to push for discussions about race.
Would the appeal of joining the Republican party still feel as strong for you if Republicans actually WANTED to associate with people of color?
hmm...secretly wishing for love and acceptance from those who openly show contempt for you...were you guys neglected as children?
Oh, and by the way, the Republican party of old that opposed slavery certainly has NOTHING in common with the modern day party...constantly thumping the Bible yet never doing anything Christ-like.
I am glad that this site is here. Finally not all black people are democrats. Black people need a lesson on the difference between liberalism and conservatism. One last point is if we were all given our livelihood by the government we would all be pretty poor. How many programs that the government gives to its people that are substandard. FREE MARKET is what gives us the ability to get jobs and earn an income.
I am a 15 year old black male and I am happy to see that there are still some people that can think for themselves and care about the world we live in it is because os groups like these that I am be able to grow up in a democracy that cares about the people
Hip Hop Republicans? Are you kidding me?? I'm sorry, but this is just sad. Most black people are never going to vote republican because of the racial divides that it consists of. Most republicans are white, rich and have crooked alliances with all sorts of loobyists and so forth to promote their sick lust for power that they don't deserve in the first place when they have constantly raped this country for the last 8 years under the Bush Administration. Over time republicans have shown not just to the black community, but to the nation as a whole that they always give more and more to those that have the most, and leave the rest of the country with scraps, and then wonder why most black folks have NO regard for them. More than 60% of blacks in this country are poor, or low middle class. Republicans don't represent the people, they represent their own self-gain and self-intrest and John McCain and Sarah Palin is a perfect example of that with their non-stop empty attacks on Obama that they used this week at the RNC, but not one word about how they are going to move this country forward. Most black folks wanna know how are you going to help them, and in every case it's always the democrats who come to their rescue, not the republicans lol. To me a black person thats a republican IS A TRUE SELLOUT, cuz I feel that they wanna just suck up to these rich white folks to themselves feel important to them, when in actuality, the whites don't give a damn if you got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. Come on now this hip hop republican stuff to me is just a LAUGH OUT LOUD vision of what republicans hope that blacks will become...
"If you're not a Liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a Conservative when you are old, you have no brain"
"Most black folks wanna know how are you going to help them, and in every case it's always the democrats who come to their rescue"
...In response to that comment, that is exactly the reason I'm a Conservative. Not because I don't want to help African Americans or any other minority for that matter, but because I believe people should help themselves. It is not the role of Government to help people in that sense...it's the role of people to help Government provide infrastructure, civil liberaties, and safety through the armed forces. Why do so many Americans feel such entitlement that Government exists to provide for them that they don't provide for themselves. Growing up, my parents were blue collar workers. I was not fed on a silver spoon but worked hard for what I've achieved. I'm not patting myself on the back, just stating that this is what I believe to be the American Dream. When people stop believing they can achieve and simply vote for an administration or party that will give them the most, that's when our nation will crumble.
And to the comment that the conservative just left, that is exactly why this country is in turmoil the way that it is, cuz the government is not doing what it is supposed to do, and for the past 8 years, has only worked to the advantage of those who are the most rich and powerful, not to working or middel-class folks. It's not that people don't wanna help themselves, it's that the government that we have is not willing to do it's part so that they can help themselves. how can you get a job when there are thousands of jobs that are being jost each month or being shipped over seas? Or when there is skyrocketing food and gas prices? Or when you can't get health care unless if you quit your job, or you have to be just about to the point of eating out of garbage cans for government to move on helping you? But i guess i'm just being irrational, right? lol that's exactly what I'm talking about.....you republicans always wanna chatter about how much you have and rich and fortunate you are, but could care less about where the rest of the country is. Let me tell you something.....WE ALL work hard and try to achieve the american dream, but it's not our fault if our government only allows the chosen few to reach that goal.
"...In response to that comment, that is exactly the reason I'm a Conservative. Not because I don't want to help African Americans or any other minority for that matter, but because I believe people should help themselves. It is not the role of Government to help people in that sense...it's the role of people to help Government provide infrastructure, civil liberaties, and safety through the armed forces."
That kind of attitude is the result of truly selfish thinking. I agree that people need to take responsibility for their actions, but there are numerous places in the United States where the chances of making it on your own are very slim. This is by design to keep certain minorities down. It’s known as systemic racism, but of course you don’t believe racism still exists. How is one to get a good education when their schools are not safe, lack adequate resources (teachers, books, computers, etc.), or they go to school hungry everyday? How is one to get a descent job without a good education, especially when they are a visible minority? How are they supposed to pay for that education when their families can’t afford it? It’s a vicious cycle, how much of your own income and/or time do you contribute to these communities? They are not looking for the government to support them as you suggested, they just need some assistance.
“It means that the parents of urban children must have the opportunity to take the tax dollars assigned to them via the current public school system and redistribute the funds to schools that will truly prepare their children for 21st Century jobs. The prime motivator in a free market – competition – will either force bad schools to improve their teaching performances or lose students (and subsequently their jobs) in the process.” - Hip Hop Republicans
The paragraph above proves my point, how are parents that live in extreme poverty going to get their kids to these schools that truly prepare their children for the 21st century? How many of those schools exist in poor neighborhoods? You guys don’t get out of the suburbs much! How is a bad school going to improve with reduced government funding? Schools in affluent neighborhoods benefit from highly successful parent fundraisers in addition to public funding, which ensures they have the best books, computers, etc. Good teachers seek these schools because they are safer and the students are better prepared to learn. How much money is a parent fundraiser going to raise in a impoverished neighborhood? The “free market” does not apply to everything; this is especially true of education and healthcare. Black folks like you are the reason why our communities don’t progress as they should; you turn your back on them as soon as you achieve a little success. This is why Barack Obama is strongly admired by many blacks all over the world; he took his Ivey league education and used it to help communities suffering from poverty. This was a very admirable decision, but the republicans joked about it at the RNC and have the nerve to call him an elitist, when they all have net worth’s over 100 million.
I’m a black man that grew up in a middleclass neighborhood, therefore I was able to get a university degree and pursue my desired career path. However, I have volunteered in high-risk communities and my wife teaches in one of the “bad schools” by choice! Once you’ve done this you will realize how tough it is to get out of this environment and how it is designed to keep us down.
Open your eyes and realize that it’s not all about you.
You're fucking stupid, uninformed, lack critical thinking skills, and you're an enemy to your people.
Hip Hop republican pssst! Give me a break! Tricknowledgy at its best. don't believe the hype!
As a Republican for the last 27 years, and this election voting for Senator Obama, I understand that party affiliation should not be a default for any "class" of person.
I do believe the current Republican Party leadership has betrayed true Republican founding principles, so I think you'll be disappointed if you think supporting the party will promote your beliefs. But, having diversity in the party is the only way to move it back in the right direction. I mean, the Republican Party's first platform was stopping slavery! Hopefully your participation will help us get it back on track. Right now, though, I don't think McCain is the man to do it.
I HOPE SOMEONE BRINGS THIS SITE DOWN..YOU PEOPLE ARE A THREAT TO BLACK PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.YOU ARE THE BIGGEST UNCLE TOMS IN DA WORLD. PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE COME AND GONE YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANY RESPECT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HAS DONE ALOT FOR BLACK PEOPLE WE HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT AND THE NEXT REVOLUTION IS REPERASIONS TO SLAVE DECENDANTS. WILL HHR NOT TAKE THERE CHECK FOR WHITES LIKE BUSH AND CHENEY PUTTING YOURE FAMILY INTO CHAINS.THIS COUNTRY IS THEHE MOST RACIST NATION IN THE WORLD,YOU WHITE PEOPLE AND ZIONIST WHO ARE PRASING THESE UNCLE TOMS FAGGETS NEED TO KNOW THAT THE REVOLUTION IS COMING AND YOU CAN NOT STOP IT.GODS JUSTICE FOR SLAVERY ON WHITE PEOPLE FOR STEALING LAND AND KILLING PEOPLE OF COLOR IS COMING.THERE IS NOTING HIPHOP ABOUT THIS SITE,YOU ARE PROBALLY ALL WHITE. I HATE YOU AND I HATE REPUBLICANS.
http://www.millionsforreparations.com/
OBAMA BIDEN 2008
this site is interesting. a friend suggested that i check it out. i agree with some the things on here, even though i don't think that i can necessarily call myself a republican. i honestly don't see how anybody can. anyway, keep doing what you do. i think that as long as you have support and there are people who feel like this is where they fit, then there is a need for this site.
i just want to say that i came from a low income african american community, i am a christian, i am a teacher, and at this point, i'm not physically rich/wealthy. my views on a lot of things really don't fit "democratic" or "republican" beliefs. that's why i feel that we need to look at the issues. these days i feel like we have to choose the lesser of two evils when we're looking at candidates. we can't look at race and how much history the 2008 election will make. we have to focus on who is going to lead this country to be what it was founded to be. we need to empower african american adults and children, help them to get the resources and education that they need, and encourage them to be successful. we can't leave it up to political parties to do it. we need to do it. we don't need to wait for mccain or obama, we should have started that a long time ago. it's up to us to make the changes, not the president.
anyway, keep doing what you do. don't let anybody stop you. you're free to believe what you want and agree with what you want. do you! one love!
This is one of the most interesting conversations about politics, parties and race on the entire Internet. I've learned so much from these posts (even the hate posts). I think the goal of bringing diversity to the Republican Party - at a time when the last convention was the most white of any in history - is a good one. However, I do think that McCain does not represent the Republican principles you support, and in the voting booth, all alone, you should vote for Obama this time. We have 4 years, then, to work together to bring the failed Republican Party into the 21st Century, and back to its roots.
Everything about this site is completly disgusting.....as a black person I'm just insulted to see that there relly are blacks who refer to themselves as republicans, a party who don't give a fuck about us (as george bush's presidency shows that). This peice of shit you guys call a politcal movement needs to shut down in all it's patheticy.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!!
Andrew and The Demo -- couldn't agree with you more. I'm a successful young black male. I have worked hard for many years (10+) to get to where I am. I consider myself a black conservative and agree with most Republican principals but I feel that the leadership has betrayed the principals of the party. I'm a huge supporter of Ron Paul.
The black community doesn't need more hand outs. Where have the handouts gotten us? Nowhere. Believe it or not, black literacy levels were higher in 1910 than they are today 80% versus today's rate of around 64%. How many handouts did we have in 1910? None. And don't get me started on teen pregnancy. It doesn't cost any money for teenagers to simply not have sex. When I was in high school, I knew where I wanted to go and knew that having a baby too early would put a kink in my plans. Since the only way to be sure not to have a baby is not to have sex, I decided not to have sex until I was out of high school. Such a simple solution but it is actually the answer to the teen pregnancy problem. Don't do something if you can't take responsibility for the consequences of your actions. Seems so simple but some can't appreciate the simplicity of the solution and instead push for a million different liberal government programs which actually ENCOURAGE teenagers to have sex.
What we, as a community, need to do is to stop compulsively voting Democratic and explore our options. Are some Republicans racists? Definitely. However, so are some Democrats. There are racists in both parties. But look at what positions the Republican party has put blacks in. We have a black woman as Secretary of State. What Democratic administration put a black person in a position of this caliber? None.
What the black community needs is free market solutions. It is amazing to me that most black politicians talk about school vouchers like the world would end if this was passed into law and then send their children to private schools. Why the double standard? Why can't inner city black families have the same choices that they have.
On the subject of taxes, I'm sick of Barack and the other Democratic leaders talking about raising taxes on the "wealthy." Why is it that if a person works hard and succeeds in life they are horrible in the eyes of the Democrats? The problem with all of this raising taxes nonsense is that if you take away all of the incentive to work hard and become successful, no one will put in the work to become successful or they will move outside of the United States in order to avoid paying the taxes. Government revenue will decline. Then who will pay for all of the government programs that have been passed into law? I have several friends who could be considered by some to be rich. They aren't billionaires but are well to do (make 250k or more yr and / or have a net worth of several million) What most Democrats will never understand is that these people work like mad. They work far, far harder than your average worker. They certainly work far harder than your average far left / socialist university professor. It is not unusual for them to work 60+ hours in a week and often work longer hours than that. And they have worked that way for many years(often 10 or more) to get where they are. Some people do inherit wealth, but the vast majority of the rich earn their money the old fashion way -- working very, very, very hard. Anybody can become rich. Hard work is the key. Luck has very little to do with it. I have found that the harder I work, the luckier I become.
Anonymous mentioned Martin Luther King being friends with the Kennedys but he forgot to mention that Dr. King was a Republican.
And last but not least, I think Barack Obama is a very bright man and is an excellent speaker. I have a lot of respect for him personally. However, I disagree with his socialist agenda. I don't think that this is what the country needs.
To "an african-american conservative":
Wow. Excellent writing. I agree with you almost completely. But I think you should research Barack Obama and John McCain more. Have you read, "The Audacity of Hope?" Barack doesn't want to tax the rich out of their incentive to work. NONE of his taxes will be higher than under Ronald Reagan! He simply wants to roll back the ridiculous tax cuts the rich have gotten under Bush that put the FULL burden of the cost of government on the middle class. The last 8 years has been a raping of the middle class, with the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich in American history. In other words, it's been a party of the rich who have shirked their responsibility to their country for too long. Obama simply wants to return to a more balanced system.
Obama does NOT want to continue handouts. Your words are almost duplicated in The Audacity of Hope. He agrees with you. Please read it.
On the other hand, the current Republican Party leadership IS socialist. They created the largest increase in size of government of any administration with the creation of the Homeland Security Department. Their current trillion dollar bail outs of (again) the rich is a system of capitalist profits and socialist losses. You've been fooled by their rhetoric, which does not match their actions.
I am a 27 year Republican. But I'm supporting Obama this election because I believe he better exemplifies the Republican founding principles. Please read this:
http://conservativesforobama.blogspot.com/2008/09/heart-and-soul-of-republican-party.html
My email address is chuck @ chucklasker.com. Feel free to contact me to discuss this further if you'd like.
Do you republicans still believe in less government regulation and the "free-market"? If so, take a good look at what's happening to your economy?
I would hate to see what happens if you further apply this line of thinking to healthcare and social security. This is why the majority of African Americans are voting for Barack Obama, it is not simply because he is black.
It's ironic how the republican push for more less regulation (even after Enron) and the free market have lead to the largest government bailout ever.
Lastly, how come I do not hear any of you blasting McCain for not attending the debate tomorrow? I could just imagine what all of you would be saying if it was Barack Obama who said he was not going to attend the first debate!
Andrew
"Why I am not a liberal pt. 1" by: The Demo
To be honest it is a number of things all boiling down to one. That one thing being oppression. Lets look at the liberal side of life for a moment. Liberals need for the people to remain poor and unable to fend for themselves. In order to achieve this goal they hand out free healthcare, welfare checks, food stamps and the such with no real regulation. I understand that people at times go through hard points in life. I did and I got off the system in six months thime. Why? Because I chose to. Most people sadly have lost site of the real goal in life. That being taking pride in what you do and have done. If one takes pride in living as a leach off of the system I have no time for him or her. Really, I do not. It disgusts me beyond all belief. Most things we all go through in life are self determined and caused by no fault of others but by our own doing. What do we learn if the governement is always there to help is there to pick us up? Absolutely nothing. At that rate we should have all stayed living with our parents if we honestly needed someone to tale care of us. I am a grown adult who needs to be responsible and accept that my life is just that, MY LIFE and it is up to me to take control of it, my liberty and my pursuance of happiness. The Constitution does not state anywhere you will be handed happiness. It does grant you the right to pursue in whatever means necessary as long as it is legal and does not infringe on others pursuance of it. People want to say that being a conservative means you are oppressive of those less fortunate than yourself. I call shenanigans on this idea. Let's look at it with the old cliche~ "you can give a man a fish and let him eat for a day, or teach him to fish and he can eat everyday of his life". Whish is more oppressive?? Making people take ownership of their lves and Costitutional rights or holding someone down, and letting them demean themselves in letting them live off the system and keeping them poor with no motivation to do better for themselves. I personally would rather be built up and taught I can do better than that. This is my issue with socialism, when everyone makes the same amount, has the same healthcare and all that jazz, where is the motivation? Why would anyone want to do all the years in college to be a doctor or what have you when he or she can flip burgers and do just the same in annual income as a doctor? I know I would not. Socialism and liberalism are awful in the sense of the oppression and the lack of motivation they breed..... So I ask, who wants to learn how to fish?
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